I agree... AMD needs something to boost sales (Like core2duo)

Their Phenom processor looks great, but it's going to be a high-end line to take over for the FX. We really need something in the mid-range to compete with the E6600 or even the E6300 with its overclockability.

Mid-range... no high-end sounds good! We need something with incredibly power to blow away intel

Yea, that sounds good!

Oh and, how much cost are we looking at for the Phenom? (highest one)

I'm guessing pretty high ($1000+) just like most processors are when they come out (For the highest model of course!)

Yea, that sounds around right.

I mean, I think it will be higher. It should be for what it is! (Quad core!) And the highest one will probably have at least 8MB L2 cache... I can smell a very high price tag. $1500+ (if there is a server edition)

i have 5 PC's right now only 3 of them are working so i will only list the specs for those 3

HP m7640n

integrated 7.1 audio
integrated nVidia 6150 LE
AMD X2 5200+
320GB SATA
2GB DDR2 RAM
Hauppage wintv 150 tuner
DVD+/-RW w/lightscribe
Running WinXP Pro on a 15" CRT with an Antec 2.1 speaker system

i added a 55GB IDE HDD for media and my 250GB external is almost always connected, I have Vista for it, and installed it once, but i hate it with a passion.

Self Built Desktop
P4 2.6Ghz
1GB ram
250GB Sata HDD
integrated audio and sound
15" CRT
DVDRW

i built it for my parents, it runs WinXP Pro

and lastly my Gateway 7305GZ laptop
15.4" screen
512mb RAM
3.2Ghz P4 Desktop processor
100GB IDE HDD
broken dvdrw
integrated wifi a/b/g
integrated card reader
ATI Radeon 9600 w/ 64mb VRAM

thing gets hotter than the devils *******

really, you get that much heat?

If we want to get into what I got here...

I got 5 pcs that actually work and I use... heat stays cool.

Quad Xeon Server - (loud, but cool)
4xXeon 750Mhz 4x1MB cache
8GB (16x512MB) ECC RAM
2x36GB Scsi

2 Dell Dimension 3000 Desktop PCs
80GB HDD
CeleronD Processors (one is a server, one is used for development with PHP)

Custom Built AMD Athlon 3000+ with 80GB hdd.

I also have my laptop.

HP Pavilion dv6000
1GB RAM
80GB HDD

(whats with the 80GB hdds?)

oh and 4 routers :P

Yeah, things can be noisy sometimes.

Heres my pic of it (yes I pride it as my office!)

http://www.hl11.com/office/office3.jpg